interview with david gregory, i talked about health care for the nation, climate change, redistributive tax policies -- these are things that republicans oppose on principle, and he did that, though, which makes it worse, in a conversation, and there was a subtle link to this issue of race. it makes republicans look like they don't oppose president obama for all these principle or policy reasons that were just brought up, but rather because he's black, and that's what is really, really disturbing and destructive, that we have a serious disagreement with policy and principles, not because of who the president is or what his race is. >> l.z., response? >> you see what i mean, carol? that's a perfect example of what i talked about earlier. there are racist facets of republican party. when you look at comments made by republican john sununu, how could you not see the hint of racism in his voice when he talks about the president? are there disagreement when's it comes to policy? absolutely. let's remember the republican party actually was the party that gave us the epa. the republican party gave